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Query:

Re: Is it safe (xrays?) to light a fluorescent bulb with a Van de Graaf Generator?

Date: Thu Mar 30 15:51:01 2006
Posted By: Michael Kay, President and Consultant AMBRY, Inc., and
Area of science: Physics
ID: 1141013063.Ph
Message:

Heather,

This was the hardest question to answer that I have received as a mad 
scientist. Not that I didn't have a good answer from my years as a 
nuclear scientist and consultant, but finding published data was 
extremely difficult. Over 1,000 search results (examples: "x-rays + 
fluorescent lights", "health physics + fluorescent lights", "fluorescent 
light + dosimetry + x-rays", and "x-ray exposure + fluorescent light")
were evaluated. Apparently, no one has published the results of placing 
an appropriate radiation detector next to comercially available 
fluorescent lights. Most of the dosimetry was concerned with the UV 
(ultraviolet) emission from fluorescent lights. 

The one piece of data that indicates the exposure from "strong" x-rays--
those being able to pass through the glass--is not of concern is from

Laboratory for Calibration of Radiation Protection Instruments
Individual and environmental Dosimetry Laboratory
 http://www.ifj.edu.pl/old-
html/htdocs/Introductions/NPP/tld%20research.htm
 

They manufacture ultra-high sensitive thermoluminescent dosimeters, and 
also supply the material for other investigators to use. The data sheet 
for the Ultra-High Sensitivity material gives:

ULTRA-HIGH SENSITIVITY LiF:Mg,Cu,P TL PHOSPHOR & PELLETS
Fluorescent Light effect on fading and zero reading:
Negligible at standard laboratory light intensity

Standard laboratory fluorescent lights are usually 2 to 4 in a bank about 
5 feet above bench height. This material is sensitive to environmental 
radiation, so I conclude that there is no difference between 
environmental (background) radiation with the lights on or off. 

Personally, I have used calibrated microR-meters and found no difference 
in background radiation from fluorescent lights.

Now, let's fill in the rest of your question. Gas discharge lamps are 
under pressure while fluorescent lights operate at about 0.3% of 
atmospheric pressure, and mercury vapor is present at about 1 part per 
thousand of that. The main gases in fluorescent lights are argon and, 
occasionally, neon or krypton. Because the electrons are accelerated to a 
low energy, the x-rays from these gases are very soft, and are stopped by 
the glass of the tube. There is a high potential created to start the 
tube, but once the plasma (current conducted by ionization of a gas) is 
established, the voltage is reduced, and the current limited to prevent 
overheating (the job of the ballast for fluorescent lights). 

Gas discharge tubes are quartz so that the ultraviolet light as well as 
the visible will be emitted, and are usually at or above atmospheric 
pressure. Neon and argon x-rays will be absorbed by the quartz. 

X-rays are produced when an inner electron of an atom is removed by a 
collision with an energetic electron. One source of x-rays is the 
electrode that the electrons hit--it is usually metallic. The other 
source of x-rays is heavy gases where removing an electron takes 
considerable energy--100,000 electron volts or more (100 keV) in the 
inelastic collision. When this inner shell vacancy is created in an 
element such as mercury, an electron from a higher shell "falls" into the 
potential hole and in so doing gives off an x-ray. For mercury, this x-
ray is on the order of 80 kEv, and is a moderately strong x-ray that will 
go through the glass of a fluorescent light. But most commercial lighting 
systems do not work at 100 keV or 100,000 volts potential. They operate 
at 10kV starting potential, and lower for operation.

Now to the question about the Van der Graaf (VdG) generator, when a high 
potential electric field is generated (as high as 500 keV or even 
greater), electrons can be accelerated. If the field is strong enough, it 
will ionize the air, and this can be seen as a corona discharge from the 
VdG. In a fluorescent light, this ionization produces UV and some x-ray 
emission. The UV emission causes the tube to fluoresce. The high 
potential may remove some inner electrons from mercury atoms causing 
emission of mercury x-rays. However, this ionization is on an individual 
atom basis; there is no plasma generated carrying a current of high-
velocity electrons because there is minimal potential difference between 
the electrodes in the fluorescent tube, and nothing to carry off the 
charge buildup on an electrode (you don't see sparks flying out of the 
end of the tube). 

The principles of Health Physics to reduce exposure are time, distance, 
and shielding. In the case of the fluorescent light: the exposure is for 
a very short time, and the exposure rate is very low; the hand holding 
the tube is only over a short section of the tube, so any exposure is 
mainly to a short part of the tube;  and the glass envelope provides 
shielding for almost all of the soft x-rays, and there is not a 
significant dose from the mercury x-rays in this experiment.  

One very interesting example of this phenomenon, with pictures, 
underneath 400 kV electric power transmission lines is
 http://www.zen32868.zen.c
o.uk/r/press.htm

A field of 1301 fluorescent lights was set up as a performance art piece 
by Richard Box, Artist in Residence, Physics Department, Bristol 
University, UK. The description of how a fluorescent light works is not 
totally correct, but that is journalism.
  
The Guardian G2 26.02.04

How does this field of lights work?

Ian Sample

The 1301 fluorescent tubes are powered only by the electric fields 
generated by overhead powerlines.
Richard Box, artist-in-residence at Bristol University’s physics 
department, got the idea for the installation after a chance conversation 
with a friend. ‘He was telling me he used to play with a fluorescent tube 
under the pylons by his house,’ says Box. ‘He said it lit up like a light 
sabre.’
Box decided to see if he could fill a field with tubes lit by powerlines. 
After a few weeks hunting for a site, he found a field, slipped the local 
farmer £200 and planted 3,600 square metres with tubes collected from 
hospitals.
A fluorescent tube glows when an electrical voltage is set up across it. 
The electric field set up inside the tube excites atoms of mercury gas, 
making them emit ultraviolet light. This invisible light strikes the 
phosphor coating on the glass tube, making it glow. Because powerlines 
are typically 400,000 volts, and Earth is at an electrical potential 
voltage of zero volts, pylons create electric fields between the cables 
they carry and the ground.
Box denies that he aimed to draw attention to the potential dangers of 
powerlines, ‘For me, it was just the amazement of taking something that’s 
invisible and making it visible,’ he says. ‘When it worked, I 
thought: ‘This is amazing.’’

General references for how fluorescent lights work:

howthingswork.virginia.edu/fluorescent_lamps.html 
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_light






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